Is this a AO level call or require GOs?

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From: Benzi Zimerman [mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:48 PM
To: Frank, David C Maj USMC EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) <david.c.frank.mil@mail.mil>
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Tuesday VTC. Same Subject

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Yes sir!

V/r

MAJ Benzi Zimmerman
Head, International Cooperation Desk

IDF Operations Directorate - Plans, Doctrine & Exercises (J3-5/7)

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On Aug 14, 2019, at 17:15, Frank, David C Maj USMC EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) <david.c.frank.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:david.c.frank.mil@mail.mil > > wrote:

Benzi,
Confirming there is another SVTC 1930 our time here in Stuttgart?

Thanks!

Dave

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From: Kleisner, Theodore W COL USARMY EUCOM ECJ3 (USA)
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 7:22 AM
To: Benzi Zimerman <Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > >; Shahar Shoshana <Shahar_shoshana@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Shahar_shoshana@mail.gov.il > >
Cc: Frank, David C Maj USMC EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) <david.c.frank.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:david.c.frank.mil@mail.mil > >; Killingbeck, Amanda N MSgt USAF EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) <amanda.n.killingbeck.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:amanda.n.killingbeck.mil@mail.mil > >; Howell, Amber L LT USN (USA) <amber.l.howell2.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:amber.l.howell2.mil@mail.mil > >
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Tuesday VTC. Same Subject

Lads,

Please include the folks on the CC line for any SVTC coordination. Tom and I will be travelling for the next few days. Dave Frank will make things happen for you. Tk

Respectfully,

COL Teddy Kleisner (US Army)
USEUCOM, ECJ35 Plans Division
ECJ35-FUOPS, Levant Branch Lead
DSN: 314-430-4770
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From: Benzi Zimerman [Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > ]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 7:19 PM
To: Shahar Shoshana <Shahar_shoshana@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Shahar_shoshana@mail.gov.il > >
Cc: Schmitz, Jonathan L CDR USN EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) <jonathan.l.schmitz.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:jonathan.l.schmitz.mil@mail.mil > >; Kleisner, Theodore W COL USARMY EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) <theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil > >; Kenkel, John D <kenkeljd@state.gov < Caution-mailto:kenkeljd@state.gov > >; Swigart, Caleb J LCDR USN CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA) <caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > >; Van Riper, Stephen K Col USMC EUCOM ECJ5/8 (US) <stephen.k.vanriper.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:stephen.k.vanriper.mil@mail.mil > >; Barada, Eric W Maj USAF EUCOM ECJ5/8 (USA) <eric.w.barada.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:eric.w.barada.mil@mail.mil > >; Braun, Jeremy D (J.D.) LCDR USN EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) <jeremy.d.braun.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:jeremy.d.braun.mil@mail.mil > >; Arndt, Michael C Col USAF CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA) <michael.c.arndt2.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:michael.c.arndt2.mil@mail.mil > >; Santiago, Stephen P Col USMC CENTCOM CENTCOM HQ (USA) <stephen.p.santiago.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:stephen.p.santiago.mil@mail.mil > >; Arnold, Thomas D MAJ USARMY EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) <thomas.d.arnold.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:thomas.d.arnold.mil@mail.mil > >; Aswell, Andrew P <aswellap@state.gov < Caution-mailto:aswellap@state.gov > >; Reidy, Jessica R <reidyjr@state.gov < Caution-mailto:reidyjr@state.gov > >; Liou, Lin-Lin Maj USAF CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA) <linlin.liou.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:linlin.liou.mil@mail.mil > >;sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > ; Schlip, Jesse J <schlipjj@state.gov < Caution-mailto:schlipjj@state.gov > >; DeStazio, John M <destaziojm@state.gov < Caution-mailto:destaziojm@state.gov > >; Strosin, Marek <strosinm@state.gov < Caution-mailto:strosinm@state.gov > >; Meadows, David P <meadowsdp@state.gov < Caution-mailto:meadowsdp@state.gov > >;yanirk100@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:yanirk100@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Tuesday VTC. Same Subject

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Hey all

Tomorrow’s SVTC will be at 2030/1930/1330.

Same bridge.

Thanks for your continuous support.

V/r

MAJ Benzi Zimmerman
Head, International Cooperation Desk

IDF Operations Directorate - Plans, Doctrine & Exercises (J3-5/7)

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On Aug 13, 2019, at 15:23, Benzi Zimerman <Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > < Caution-Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > > > wrote:

  All

  I spoke to LCDR Swigart at CCJ3 -

  We are G2G for 195/1815/1215, on the regular bridge.

  Please let us know in advance who will be attending.

  V/r

  MAJ Benzi Zimmerman
  Head, International Cooperation Desk

  IDF Operations Directorate - Plans, Doctrine & Exercises (J3-5/7)

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  On Aug 13, 2019, at 11:00, Shahar Shoshana <Shahar_shoshana@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Shahar_shoshana@mail.gov.il > < Caution-Caution-mailto:Shahar_shoshana@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Shahar_shoshana@mail.gov.il > > > wrote:



      GOFO

      H2 and Y1



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      On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 10:55 AM +0300, "Kleisner, Theodore W COL USARMY EUCOM ECJ3 (USA)"<theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil > > > wrote:



          AO-Level or GOFO?Respectfully,COL Teddy Kleisner (US Army)USEUCOM, ECJ35 Plans DivisionECJ35-FUOPS, Levant Branch LeadDSN: 314-430-4770COM: +497116804770NIPR:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.mil > > SIPR:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.smil.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:theodore.w.kleisner.mil@mail.smil.mil > > JWICS:Theodore.W.Kleisner@coe.ci.gov < Caution-mailto:Theodore.W.Kleisner@coe.ci.gov > < Caution-Caution-mailto:Theodore.W.Kleisner@coe.ci.gov < Caution-mailto:Theodore.W.Kleisner@coe.ci.gov > > -----Original Message-----From: Benzi Zimerman [Caution-Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > < Caution-Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:Benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > > ]Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:49 AMTo: Schmitz, Jonathan L CDR USN EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) Cc: Kenkel, John D ; Swigart, Caleb J LCDR USN CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA) ; Van Riper, Stephen K Col USMC EUCOM ECJ5/8 (US) ; Kleisner, Theodore W COL USARMY EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) ; Barada, Eric W Maj USAF EUCOM ECJ5/8 (USA) ; Shahar Shoshana ; Braun, Jeremy D (J.D.) LCDR USN EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) ; Arndt, Michael C Col USAF CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA) ; Santiago, Stephen P Col USMC CENTCOM CENTCOM HQ (USA) ; Arnold, Thomas D MAJ USARMY EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) ; Aswell, Andrew P ; Reidy, Jessica R ; Liou, Lin-Lin Maj USAF CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA) ;sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > < Caution-Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > > ; Schlip, Jesse J ; DeStazio, John M ; Strosin, Marek ; Meadows, David P Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Tuesday VTC. Same SubjectAll active links contained in this email were disabled. Please verify the identity of the sender, and confirm the authenticity of all links contained within the message prior to copying and pasting the address to a Web browser.________________________________Roger and copy all.Weel wait for CC to wake up and coordinate a SVTC.For now, please block 1800/1700/1100?V/rMAJ Benzi ZimmermanHead, International Cooperation DeskIDF Operations Directorate - Plans, Doctrine & Exercises (J3-5/7)T: + <tel:+972-3-740-7723 < tel:+972-3-740-7723 > < tel:+972-3-740-7723 < tel:+972-3-740-7723 > > > 972-3-740-7723 < tel:+972-3-740-7723 < tel:+972-3-740-7723 > <tel:+972-3-740-7723 < tel:+972-3-740-7723 > > > | M: + < tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > < tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > > > 972-5-42074487 <tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > < tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > > > | E: benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > < Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il > < Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il > > >//UNCLASSIFIED//On Aug 13, 2019, at 10:42, Schmitz, Jonathan L CDR USN EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) > wrote:    + additional EUCOM leadership.    V/r    Jonathan    -----Original Message-----    From: Kenkel, John D [Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:KenkelJD@state.gov < Caution-mailto:KenkelJD@state.gov > < Caution-Caution-mailto:KenkelJD@state.gov < Caution-mailto:KenkelJD@state.gov > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:KenkelJD@state.gov < Caution-mailto:KenkelJD@state.gov > < Caution-Caution-mailto:KenkelJD@state.gov < Caution-mailto:KenkelJD@state.gov > > > ]    Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:30 AM    To: Benzi Zimerman >; Swigart, Caleb J LCDR USN    CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA) >    Cc: Shahar Shoshana >; Braun, Jeremy D (J.D.)    LCDR USN EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) >; Arndt, Michael C    Col USAF CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA) >; Schmitz,    Jonathan L CDR USN EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) >;    Santiago, Stephen P Col USMC CENTCOM CENTCOM HQ (USA)     >; Arnold, Thomas D MAJ USARMY EUCOM ECJ3    (USA) >; Aswell, Andrew P >;    Reidy, Jessica R >; Liou, Lin-Lin Maj USAF CENTCOM CCJ3    (USA)   >;sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > < Caution-Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > < Caution-Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > > > ; Schlip, Jesse J     >; DeStazio, John M >; Strosin,    Marek >; Meadows, David P >    Subject: [Non-DoD Source] RE: Tuesday VTC. Same Subject    All active links contained in this email were disabled. Please verify the    identity of the sender, and confirm the authenticity of all links contained    within the message prior to copying and pasting the address to a Web    browser.    ________________________________    + Brig Gen Brown's EA to track scheduling    Mr Schlip,    Current proposed times are 1400 or 1800 local Isr time.    colk    Official    UNCLASSIFIED    From: Benzi Zimerman >    Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:07 AM    To: Swigart, Caleb J LCDR USN CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA)      >    Cc: Shahar Shoshana >; Kenkel, John D     >; Braun, Jeremy D (J.D.) LCDR USN EUCOM ECJ3 (USA)      >; Arndt, Michael C Col USAF CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA)     >; Schmitz, Jonathan L CDR USN EUCOM ECJ3    (USA) >; Santiago, Stephen P Col USMC    CENTCOM CENTCOM HQ (USA) >; Arnold, Thomas D    MAJ USARMY EUCOM ECJ3 (USA) >; Aswell, Andrew P     >; Reidy, Jessica R >; Liou, Lin-Lin    Maj USAF CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA) >;sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > < Caution-Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > < Caution-Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com < Caution-mailto:sharcoh33@gmail.com > > >    Subject: Re: Tuesday VTC. Same Subject    Does 1100 local eastern time work?    V/r    MAJ Benzi Zimmerman    Head, International Cooperation Desk    IDF Operations Directorate - Plans, Doctrine & Exercises (J3-5/7)    T: + <tel:+972-3-740-7723 < tel:+972-3-740-7723 > < tel:+972-3-740-7723 < tel:+972-3-740-7723 > > < tel:+972-3-740-7723 < tel:+972-3-740-7723 > <tel:+972-3-740-7723 < tel:+972-3-740-7723 > > > > 972-3-740-7723   > | M: +    <tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > < tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > > < tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > <tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > > > > 972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > < tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > > <tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > < tel:+972-5-42074487 < tel:+972-5-42074487 > > > > | E:    benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > < Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > < Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimerman@mail.gov.il > > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il > < Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il > < Caution-Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il < Caution-mailto:benzi_zimeraman@mail.gov.il > > > >    //UNCLASSIFIED//    On Aug 12, 2019, at 23:01, Swigart, Caleb J LCDR USN CENTCOM CCJ3 (USA)     < Caution-Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > > >            wrote:       Shahar,       We (CENTCOM J3) would like to conduct another VTC Tuesday morning at    0700 Easter Standard Time. Is that doable for your J3 and your J2?       Very respectfully,       LCDR Caleb Swigart       TemporaryExecutive Officer to RADM Paparo, CENTCOM J3       Gov Cell:813-816-8065       VoIP: 813-529-3013|NIPR:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > > > <    Caution-Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.mil > > > >       SVoIP: 302-529-3004|SIPR:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil > > > <    Caution-Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart.mil@mail.smil.mil > > > >       TSVoIP: 918-1559|JWICS:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov > > > <    Caution-Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov > > < Caution-Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov > < Caution-Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov < Caution-mailto:caleb.j.swigart@coe.ic.gov > > > >