Date : 2/6/2020 3:06:39 AM
From : "Benzi Zimerman"
To : "tal kaduri"
Subject : Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Hatzor Airfield question

הסיפור של האישור נחיתה מבוצע ע״י חמל קשח תוך 5 דקות

V/r

MAJ Benzi Zimmerman 
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IDF Operations Directorate - Plans, Doctrine & Exercises (J3-5/7)

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On Feb 5, 2020, at 18:52, tal kaduri <kadurital@gmail.com> wrote:


More variables to calculate after speaking again with the base. 

1.The only runway that can carry the 
Weight is starting construction in 2 weeks so you can only land until the 20th of FEB.(we can't move the construction)

2.the base is only authorized to approve Gray tail landing. If it is a civilian plane we will need the approval of the israely CAAI  (civil aviation authority Israel) Something like your FAA...which is a longer process according to the people from the base 

If number 1 is relavnt we can check about number 2. 
If not we will stick to BGIA

Waiting for your update

Tal

בתאריך יום ד׳, 5 בפבר׳ 2020, 17:21, מאת Hooper, Thomas M CTR EUCOM ECJ7 (USA) ‏<thomas.m.hooper2.ctr@mail.mil>:
That'll work

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Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Hatzor Airfield question

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Hi

According to the checks the HQ did

777 can't land (width and weight)

767-300 can land but with restorations ( on the plain and to the base) 1. Weight limit No more than 320000 pounds 2. Even with this weight only one runway can support landing 3. Only few areas can receive for parking and offloading 4. Can't do a U turn on the runway


In order to move forward
can you update the date you are looking to land the plane (if you can meet the restriction of weight that is)

And the base can check if it can support with the restrictions

Thanks

Tal

בתאריך יום ד׳, 5 בפבר׳ 2020, 14:30, מאת Hooper, Thomas M CTR EUCOM ECJ7 (USA) ‏<thomas.m.hooper2.ctr@mail.mil < Caution-mailto:thomas.m.hooper2.ctr@mail.mil > >:


        What's the word on landing a B767  at Hatzor.  I need to know this week.

        Tom

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        Tal,

        It could be a 767 or a 777.  Can Hatzor take them both?

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        767 300 is the one?

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                300

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                How many PAX?


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                        Tal,

                        Can Hatzor take a Boeing 767?  With the use of C-130s and a leased aircraft,
                        if we can land everything Hazor, it would save us some trouble.

                        Tom

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